Train services at Nijmegen Lent on September 20, 2018

This page shows all trains which have departed from station Nijmegen Lent on Thursday, September 20, 2018. This includes all trains scheduled to depart, including trains which were eventually cancelled.

Services which were cancelled in advance, for example due to engineering works, are not included in this overview.

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Nijmegen Lent
Thursday, September 20, 2018
Total services 131
On time 114 (87%)
Cancelled services 4 (3%)
Delayed trains* 13 (10%)
* trains delayed for 5 minutes or more, excluding cancelled services

Train services

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05:00 – 06:00

1 service, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
05:40 05:40 Den Helder Intercity 3014 1
VIRM-4VIRM-4
VIRM-4 9407, VIRM-4 9569 ->

06:00 – 07:00

7 services, 1 cancelled (14.3%), 1 delayed (14.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
06:04 06:04 Zutphen Sprinter 7615 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209, FLIRT FFF-3 2213 ->
06:09 +2 06:09 +4 Dordrecht Sprinter 4419 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2994, SGMM-2 2143 ->
06:19 +1 06:19 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4414 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2202, FLIRT FFF-4 2504 ->
06:34 +1 06:34 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7617 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
06:39 06:39 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4421 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2205, FLIRT FFF-3 2203 ->
06:49 06:49 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4416 1
Train is cancelled
06:55 06:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7618 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->

07:00 – 08:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
07:04 +2 07:04 +2 Zutphen Sprinter 7619 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2217, FLIRT FFF-3 2230 ->
07:09 +1 07:09 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 4423 2
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2504, FLIRT FFF-3 2202 ->
07:19 07:19 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4418 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2224, FLIRT FFF-3 2214 ->
07:25 07:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7620 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-2 2111 ->
07:34 07:34 Zutphen Sprinter 7621 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
07:39 07:39 Dordrecht Sprinter 4425 2
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2511 ->
07:49 07:49 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4420 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
07:55 07:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7622 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2213, FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->

08:00 – 09:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
08:04 08:04 Zutphen Sprinter 7623 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2111, SGMM-3 2960 ->
08:09 08:09 Dordrecht Sprinter 4427 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2214, FLIRT FFF-3 2224 ->
08:19 +1 08:19 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4422 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2225, FLIRT FFF-3 2215 ->
08:25 +2 08:25 +2 Wijchen Sprinter 7624 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
08:34 08:34 Zutphen Sprinter 7625 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209, FLIRT FFF-3 2213 ->
08:39 08:39 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4429 2
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
08:49 +3 08:49 +3 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4424 1
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2502, FLIRT FFF-3 2233 ->
08:55 08:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7626 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2230, FLIRT FFF-3 2217 ->

09:00 – 10:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
09:04 +10 09:04 +10 Zutphen Sprinter 7627 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
09:09 09:09 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 4431 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2215, FLIRT FFF-3 2225 ->
09:19 +6 09:19 +6 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4426 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2224, FLIRT FFF-3 2214 ->
09:25 +1 09:25 +1 Wijchen Sprinter 7628 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->
09:34 +10 09:34 +10 Zutphen Sprinter 7629 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2217, FLIRT FFF-3 2230 ->
09:39 09:39 +5 Dordrecht Sprinter 4433 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2233, FLIRT FFF-4 2502 ->
09:49 +5 09:49 +5 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4428 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
09:55 09:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7630 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-2 2111 ->

10:00 – 11:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
10:04 +3 10:04 +3 Zutphen Sprinter 7631 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
10:09 +1 10:09 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 4435 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2214, FLIRT FFF-3 2224 ->
10:19 10:19 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4430 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2225, FLIRT FFF-3 2215 ->
10:25 10:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7632 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2213, FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->
10:34 +7 10:34 +7 Zutphen Sprinter 7633 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2111, SGMM-3 2960 ->
10:39 +1 10:39 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4437 2
ICM-3
ICM-3 4044 ->
10:49 +1 10:49 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4432 1
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2502, FLIRT FFF-3 2233 ->
10:55 10:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7634 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->

11:00 – 12:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
11:04 +3 11:04 +3 Zutphen Sprinter 7635 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209, FLIRT FFF-3 2213 ->
11:09 11:09 Dordrecht Sprinter 4439 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2215, FLIRT FFF-3 2225 ->
11:19 +2 11:19 +2 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4434 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2202, FLIRT FFF-4 2504 ->
11:25 11:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7636 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2230, FLIRT FFF-3 2217 ->
11:34 11:34 Zutphen Sprinter 7637 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
11:39 +14 11:39 +14 Dordrecht Sprinter 4441 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2233, FLIRT FFF-4 2502 ->
11:49 +8 11:49 +8 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 304436 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
11:55 +3 11:55 +3 Wijchen Sprinter 7638 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->

12:00 – 13:00

8 services, 1 cancelled (12.5%), 1 delayed (12.5%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
12:04 12:04 Zutphen Sprinter 7639 1
Train is cancelled
12:09 +3 12:09 +4 Dordrecht Sprinter 4443 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2214, FLIRT FFF-3 2224 ->
12:19 +5 12:19 +5 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4438 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2225, FLIRT FFF-3 2215 ->
12:25 +2 12:25 +2 Wijchen Sprinter 7640 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-2 2111 ->
12:34 +3 12:34 +3 Zutphen Sprinter 7641 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
12:39 12:39 Dordrecht Sprinter 4445 2
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
12:49 12:49 +2 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4440 1
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2502, FLIRT FFF-3 2233 ->
12:55 +5 12:55 +5 Wijchen Sprinter 7642 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2213, FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->

13:00 – 14:00

8 services, 1 cancelled (12.5%), 1 delayed (12.5%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
13:04 13:04 Zutphen Sprinter 7643 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2111, SGMM-3 2960 ->
13:09 +9 13:09 +10 Dordrecht Sprinter 4447 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2215, FLIRT FFF-3 2225 ->
13:19 +4 13:19 +4 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4442 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2224, FLIRT FFF-3 2214 ->
13:25 +3 13:25 +3 Wijchen Sprinter 7644 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
13:34 +3 13:34 +3 Zutphen Sprinter 7645 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209, FLIRT FFF-3 2213 ->
13:39 13:39 Dordrecht Sprinter 4449 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2233, FLIRT FFF-4 2502 ->
13:49 13:49 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4444 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
13:55 13:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7646 2
Train is cancelled

14:00 – 15:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
14:04 +1 14:04 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7647 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
14:09 14:09 Dordrecht Sprinter 4451 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2214, FLIRT FFF-3 2224 ->
14:19 +6 14:19 +6 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4446 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2225, FLIRT FFF-3 2215 ->
14:25 +2 14:25 +2 Wijchen Sprinter 7648 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->
14:34 +2 14:34 +2 Zutphen Sprinter 7649 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2217, FLIRT FFF-3 2230 ->
14:39 14:39 Dordrecht Sprinter 4453 2
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
14:49 14:49 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4448 1
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2502, FLIRT FFF-3 2233 ->
14:55 14:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7650 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-2 2111 ->

15:00 – 16:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
15:04 +1 15:04 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7651 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
15:09 15:09 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 4455 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2215, FLIRT FFF-3 2225 ->
15:19 +3 15:19 +3 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4450 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2224, FLIRT FFF-3 2214 ->
15:25 15:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7652 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2213, FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->
15:34 15:34 Zutphen Sprinter 7653 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2111, SGMM-3 2960 ->
15:39 15:39 Dordrecht Sprinter 4457 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2233, FLIRT FFF-4 2502 ->
15:49 +4 15:49 +4 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4452 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
15:55 15:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7654 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->

16:00 – 17:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
16:04 +2 16:04 +2 Zutphen Sprinter 7655 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209, FLIRT FFF-3 2213 ->
16:09 16:09 Dordrecht Sprinter 4459 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2214, FLIRT FFF-3 2224 ->
16:19 +3 16:19 +3 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4454 1
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2202 ->
16:25 16:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7656 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2230, FLIRT FFF-3 2217 ->
16:34 +1 16:34 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7657 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
16:39 16:39 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4461 2
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
16:49 +1 16:49 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4456 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2505 ->
16:55 16:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7658 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->

17:00 – 18:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
17:04 +5 17:04 +5 Zutphen Sprinter 7659 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2217, FLIRT FFF-3 2230 ->
17:09 17:09 Dordrecht Sprinter 4463 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2215, FLIRT FFF-3 2225 ->
17:19 +1 17:19 +2 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4458 1
DDZ-4
DDZ-4 7515 ->
17:25 17:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7660 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-2 2111 ->
17:34 +1 17:34 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7661 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
17:39 +3 17:39 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 4465 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2233, FLIRT FFF-4 2502 ->
17:49 +5 17:49 +5 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4460 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2224, FLIRT FFF-3 2214 ->
17:55 17:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7662 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2213, FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->

18:00 – 19:00

8 services, 1 cancelled (12.5%), 1 delayed (12.5%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
18:04 +2 18:04 +2 Zutphen Sprinter 7663 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2111, SGMM-3 2960 ->
18:09 18:09 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4467 2
DDZ-4
DDZ-4 7515 ->
18:19 +1 18:19 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4462 1
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
18:25 +2 18:25 +2 Wijchen Sprinter 7664 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
18:34 18:34 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7665 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209, FLIRT FFF-3 2213 ->
18:39 18:39 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4469 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2214, FLIRT FFF-3 2224 ->
18:49 18:49 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4464 1
Train is cancelled
18:55 18:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7666 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2230, FLIRT FFF-3 2217 ->

19:00 – 20:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
19:04 19:04 Zutphen Sprinter 7667 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
19:09 19:09 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 4471 2
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
19:19 19:19 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4466 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2225, FLIRT FFF-3 2215 ->
19:25 19:25 Wijchen Sprinter 7668 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->
19:34 19:34 Zutphen Sprinter 7669 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2217, FLIRT FFF-3 2230 ->
19:39 +1 19:39 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 4473 2
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2511, FLIRT FFF-3 2221 ->
19:49 +2 19:49 +2 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 4468 1
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2502, FLIRT FFF-3 2233 ->
19:55 19:55 Wijchen Sprinter 7670 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-2 2111 ->

20:00 – 21:00

5 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
20:04 +6 20:04 +6 Zutphen Sprinter 7671 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
20:09 20:09 Dordrecht Sprinter 4475 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2215, FLIRT FFF-3 2225 ->
20:25 20:25 Nijmegen Sprinter 7672 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2213, FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->
20:34 +8 20:34 +8 Zutphen Sprinter 7673 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2111, SGMM-3 2960 ->
20:55 20:55 Nijmegen Sprinter 7674 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->

21:00 – 22:00

4 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
21:04 +1 21:04 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7675 1
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->
21:25 21:25 Nijmegen Sprinter 7676 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2230, FLIRT FFF-3 2217 ->
21:34 21:34 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 7677 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
21:55 21:55 Nijmegen Sprinter 7678 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->

22:00 – 23:00

4 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
22:04 22:04 Zutphen Sprinter 7679 1
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2217, FLIRT FFF-3 2230 ->
22:25 22:25 Nijmegen Sprinter 7680 2
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
22:34 22:34 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 7681 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
22:55 22:55 Nijmegen Sprinter 7682 2
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->

23:00 – 24:00

4 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
23:04 +2 23:04 +2 Zutphen Sprinter 7683 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2945 ->
23:25 +1 23:25 +1 Nijmegen Sprinter 7684 2
SGMM-3SGMM-2
SGMM-3 2939, SGMM-2 2120 ->
23:34 23:34 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 7685 1
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2209 ->
23:55 23:55 Nijmegen Sprinter 7686 2
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2230, FLIRT FFF-3 2217 ->

00:00 – 01:00

2 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
00:04 +1 00:04 +1 Zutphen Sprinter 7687 1
SGMM-2SGMM-3
SGMM-2 2120, SGMM-3 2939 ->
00:25 +2 00:25 +2 Nijmegen Sprinter 7688 2
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2229 ->

Train drawings: © Arthur Pijpers, Wiek Vlasma and others