Train services at Lage Zwaluwe on April 24, 2024

This page shows all trains which have departed from station Lage Zwaluwe on Wednesday, April 24, 2024. This includes all trains scheduled to depart, including trains which were eventually cancelled.

Services which were cancelled in advance, for example due to engineering works, are not included in this overview.

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Lage Zwaluwe
Wednesday, April 24, 2024
Total services 144
On time 136 (94%)
Cancelled services 1 (1%)
Delayed trains* 7 (5%)
* trains delayed for 5 minutes or more, excluding cancelled services

Train services

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05:00 – 06:00

2 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
05:51 +2 05:51 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6611 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2510, FLIRT FFF-3 2229 ->
05:56 +1 05:56 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5914 2
SNG-3SNG-3
SNG-3 3035, SNG-3 2337 ->

06:00 – 07:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
06:04 +1 06:04 +1 Roosendaal Sprinter 5917 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
06:10 +1 06:10 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6616 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2519, FLIRT FFF-4 2513 ->
06:21 +1 06:21 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6613 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2504, FLIRT FFF-4 2524 ->
06:26 +1 06:26 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5916 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
06:34 06:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5919 1
SNG-3SNG-3
SNG-3 2337, SNG-3 3035 ->
06:40 06:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6618 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2229, FLIRT FFF-4 2510 ->
06:51 +2 06:51 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6615 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2512, FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
06:56 06:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5918 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->

07:00 – 08:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
07:04 +1 07:04 +1 Roosendaal Sprinter 5921 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
07:10 07:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6620 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2524, FLIRT FFF-4 2504 ->
07:21 07:21 Dordrecht Sprinter 6617 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2223, FLIRT FFF-4 2515 ->
07:26 +1 07:26 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5920 2
SNG-3SNG-3
SNG-3 3035, SNG-3 2337 ->
07:34 07:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5923 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
07:40 07:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6622 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501, FLIRT FFF-4 2512 ->
07:51 +1 07:51 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6619 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2221, FLIRT FFF-4 2516 ->
07:56 +1 07:56 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5922 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->

08:00 – 09:00

9 services, 1 cancelled (11.1%), 1 delayed (11.1%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
08:04 08:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5925 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
08:10 08:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6624 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2515, FLIRT FFF-3 2223 ->
08:21 +3 08:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6621 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2506, FLIRT FFF-4 2514 ->
08:26 08:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5924 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
08:34 08:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5927 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
08:40 08:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6626 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2516, FLIRT FFF-3 2221 ->
08:51 08:51 Dordrecht Sprinter 6623 —
Train is cancelled
08:51 +2 08:51 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 306623 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2212, FLIRT FFF-3 2210, FLIRT FFF-3 2220 ->
08:56 08:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5926 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->

09:00 – 10:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
09:04 09:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5929 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
09:10 09:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6628 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2514, FLIRT FFF-4 2506 ->
09:21 +3 09:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6625 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2226, FLIRT FFF-4 2503 ->
09:26 09:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5928 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
09:34 09:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5931 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
09:40 09:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6630 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2220, FLIRT FFF-3 2210, FLIRT FFF-3 2212 ->
09:51 09:51 Dordrecht Sprinter 6627 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2523, FLIRT FFF-3 2202 ->
09:56 09:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5930 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->

10:00 – 11:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
10:04 +1 10:04 +1 Roosendaal Sprinter 5933 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
10:10 +1 10:10 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6632 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2503, FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
10:21 +3 10:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6629 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2513, FLIRT FFF-4 2519 ->
10:26 10:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5932 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
10:34 10:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5935 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
10:40 10:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6634 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2202, FLIRT FFF-4 2523 ->
10:51 +4 10:51 +4 Dordrecht Sprinter 6631 4
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2510 ->
10:56 +2 10:56 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 5934 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->

11:00 – 12:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
11:04 11:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5937 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
11:10 +1 11:10 +1 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6636 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2519, FLIRT FFF-4 2513 ->
11:21 +2 11:21 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6633 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2504, FLIRT FFF-4 2524 ->
11:26 +1 11:26 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5936 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
11:34 11:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5939 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
11:40 11:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6638 3
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2510 ->
11:51 +5 11:51 +5 Dordrecht Sprinter 6635 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2512, FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
11:56 +1 11:56 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5938 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->

12:00 – 13:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
12:04 12:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5941 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
12:10 12:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6640 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2524, FLIRT FFF-4 2504 ->
12:21 +3 12:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6637 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2223, FLIRT FFF-4 2515 ->
12:26 12:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5940 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
12:34 12:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5943 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
12:40 12:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6642 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501, FLIRT FFF-4 2512 ->
12:51 +3 12:51 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6639 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2221, FLIRT FFF-4 2516 ->
12:56 +2 12:56 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 5942 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->

13:00 – 14:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
13:04 13:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5945 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
13:10 13:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6644 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2515, FLIRT FFF-3 2223 ->
13:21 +3 13:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6641 4
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2514 ->
13:26 +1 13:26 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5944 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
13:34 13:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5947 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
13:40 +2 13:40 +2 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6646 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2516, FLIRT FFF-3 2221 ->
13:51 +3 13:51 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6643 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2212, FLIRT FFF-3 2210 ->
13:56 13:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5946 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->

14:00 – 15:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
14:04 14:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5949 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
14:10 14:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6648 3
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2514 ->
14:21 +2 14:21 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6645 4
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
14:26 14:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5948 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
14:34 14:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5951 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
14:40 +2 14:40 +2 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6650 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2210, FLIRT FFF-3 2212 ->
14:51 +2 14:51 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6647 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2523, FLIRT FFF-3 2202 ->
14:56 14:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5950 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->

15:00 – 16:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
15:04 15:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5953 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
15:10 15:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6652 3
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
15:21 15:21 Dordrecht Sprinter 6649 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2513, FLIRT FFF-4 2519 ->
15:26 +1 15:26 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5952 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
15:34 15:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5955 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
15:40 15:40 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6654 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2202, FLIRT FFF-4 2523 ->
15:51 +2 15:51 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6651 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2510, FLIRT FFF-4 2521 ->
15:56 15:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5954 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->

16:00 – 17:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
16:04 16:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5957 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
16:10 16:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6656 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2519, FLIRT FFF-4 2513 ->
16:21 +3 16:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6653 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2504, FLIRT FFF-4 2524 ->
16:26 16:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5956 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
16:34 16:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5959 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
16:40 +6 16:40 +6 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6658 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2521, FLIRT FFF-4 2510 ->
16:51 +5 16:51 +5 Dordrecht Sprinter 6655 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2512, FLIRT FFF-4 2501 ->
16:56 16:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5958 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->

17:00 – 18:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
17:04 17:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5961 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
17:10 17:10 Arnhem Centraal Sprinter 6660 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2524, FLIRT FFF-4 2504 ->
17:21 17:21 Dordrecht Sprinter 6657 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2223, FLIRT FFF-4 2515 ->
17:26 17:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5960 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
17:34 17:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5963 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
17:40 17:40 Nijmegen Sprinter 6662 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2501, FLIRT FFF-4 2512 ->
17:51 +1 17:51 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6659 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2221, FLIRT FFF-4 2516 ->
17:56 +1 17:56 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5962 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->

18:00 – 19:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
18:04 +5 18:04 +5 Roosendaal Sprinter 5965 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
18:10 18:10 Nijmegen Sprinter 6664 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2515, FLIRT FFF-3 2223 ->
18:21 +1 18:21 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6661 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2514, FLIRT FFF-3 2216 ->
18:26 +1 18:26 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 5964 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
18:34 18:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5967 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
18:38 +1 18:40 Nijmegen Sprinter 6666 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2516, FLIRT FFF-3 2221 ->
18:51 +4 18:51 +4 Dordrecht Sprinter 6663 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2212, FLIRT FFF-3 2210 ->
18:56 +9 18:56 +9 Dordrecht Sprinter 5966 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->

19:00 – 20:00

8 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
19:04 19:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5969 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
19:10 19:10 Nijmegen Sprinter 6668 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2216, FLIRT FFF-4 2514 ->
19:21 19:21 Dordrecht Sprinter 6665 4
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
19:26 19:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5968 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
19:34 19:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5971 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
19:40 19:40 Nijmegen Sprinter 6670 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2210, FLIRT FFF-3 2212 ->
19:51 19:51 Dordrecht Sprinter 6667 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-4 2523, FLIRT FFF-3 2202 ->
19:56 19:56 Dordrecht Sprinter 5970 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->

20:00 – 21:00

7 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
20:04 20:04 Roosendaal Sprinter 5973 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3035 ->
20:10 20:10 Nijmegen Sprinter 6672 3
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
20:21 +1 20:21 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6669 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2513, FLIRT FFF-4 2519 ->
20:26 20:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5972 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
20:34 20:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5975 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
20:40 20:40 Nijmegen Sprinter 6674 3
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2202, FLIRT FFF-4 2523 ->
20:51 +1 20:51 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6671 4
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2510 ->

21:00 – 22:00

6 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
21:10 21:10 Nijmegen Sprinter 6676 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2519, FLIRT FFF-4 2513 ->
21:21 +1 21:21 +1 Dordrecht Sprinter 6673 4
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2504, FLIRT FFF-4 2524 ->
21:26 21:26 Dordrecht Sprinter 5976 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
21:34 +1 21:34 +1 Roosendaal Sprinter 5979 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
21:40 21:40 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6678 3
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2510 ->
21:51 +20 21:51 +20 Dordrecht Sprinter 6675 4
FLIRT FFF-3FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-3 2221, FLIRT FFF-4 2516 ->

22:00 – 23:00

5 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
22:10 +1 22:10 +1 Nijmegen Sprinter 6680 3
FLIRT FFF-4FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2524, FLIRT FFF-4 2504 ->
22:21 +8 22:21 +8 Dordrecht Sprinter 6677 4
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2514 ->
22:26 22:26 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 5180 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2363 ->
22:34 22:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5983 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
22:51 +3 22:51 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6679 4
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2212 ->

23:00 – 24:00

4 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
23:10 23:10 Nijmegen Sprinter 6684 3
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2514 ->
23:21 +2 23:21 +2 Dordrecht Sprinter 6681 4
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
23:26 23:26 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 5184 2
SNG-3
SNG-3 2323 ->
23:34 23:34 Roosendaal Sprinter 5987 1
SNG-4
SNG-4 2737 ->

00:00 – 01:00

6 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
00:10 +2 00:10 +2 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6688 3
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2226 ->
00:21 +3 00:21 +3 Dordrecht Sprinter 6685 4
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2513 ->
00:26 +1 00:26 +1 Rotterdam Centraal Sprinter 5188 2
SNG-4
SNG-4 2737 ->
00:34 +5 00:34 +5 Roosendaal Sprinter 5191 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 3012 ->
00:40 +7 00:40 +7 Breda Sprinter 6690 3
FLIRT FFF-3
FLIRT FFF-3 2212 ->
00:51 +7 00:51 +7 Dordrecht Sprinter 6687 4
FLIRT FFF-4
FLIRT FFF-4 2516 ->

01:00 – 02:00

1 service, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
01:39 +2 01:39 +2 Roosendaal Sprinter 5195 1
SNG-3
SNG-3 2357 ->

Train drawings: © Arthur Pijpers, Wiek Vlasma and others